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Carrier Suggestions Needed

Postby backin2shape » Mon Mar 04, 2019 2:13 pm

Hi-

I'm looking for alternate SIP providers to add into our Carrier list. Any suggestions?

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Re: Carrier Suggestions Needed

Postby williamconley » Mon Mar 04, 2019 2:17 pm

To be clear, you avoided sharing yours, but you want everyone else to share theirs? 8-) (You do see the irony in that, right?)

That being said: Your responses will likely be PMs from those wanting your business, but not wanting any public scrutiny (ie: perhaps a ripoof, perhaps shady). Beware those who walk in the shadows.
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Re: Carrier Suggestions Needed

Postby backin2shape » Mon Mar 04, 2019 4:48 pm

didn't think it's a secret, I'm not asking for credentials just reputable providers.
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Re: Carrier Suggestions Needed

Postby williamconley » Mon Mar 04, 2019 4:55 pm

backin2shape wrote:didn't think it's a secret, I'm not asking for credentials just reputable providers.

if it's not a secret, why did not not then (or now) post YOUR carrier(s)?
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Re: Carrier Suggestions Needed

Postby thephaseusa » Fri Mar 22, 2019 10:40 pm

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Re: Carrier Suggestions Needed

Postby Acidshock » Tue Apr 09, 2019 1:27 pm

I can set you up. I got a whole bunch of options. PM me.
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Re: Carrier Suggestions Needed

Postby williamconley » Tue Apr 09, 2019 2:10 pm

thephaseusa wrote:https://portal.enterprisetelecom.ca/signup.php?uuid=0yzriDQI

Enterprise Telecom

Doesn't make me confident if http://enterprisetelecom.ca is a 404 page. Not entirely "enterprise" level, IMHO. lol

I mean, not even a landing page?
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Re: Carrier Suggestions Needed

Postby teleinx » Wed May 01, 2019 8:11 pm

backin2shape wrote:Hi-

I'm looking for alternate SIP providers to add into our Carrier list. Any suggestions?

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You can reach out on skype: "teleinx inc" or go to our website to get more info via email or call in the toll-free number and talk to an account manager. www.teleinx.com
Or if you like someone to call contact you, please PM me your contact info.
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Re: Carrier Suggestions Needed

Postby thephaseusa » Wed May 08, 2019 6:32 pm

William I know that is unusual.
https://www.linkedin.com/in/siptrunking

I’ve been using them for 6 months or more now though and I only pay .005/minute for outbound US.
Dominic knows voip really well.

The only downside is paying a few extra dollars in taxes because they are in Canada.

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Re: Carrier Suggestions Needed

Postby williamconley » Wed May 08, 2019 6:56 pm

thephaseusa wrote:William I know that is unusual.
https://www.linkedin.com/in/siptrunking

I’ve been using them for 6 months or more now though and I only pay .005/minute for outbound US.
Dominic knows voip really well.

The only downside is paying a few extra dollars in taxes because they are in Canada.

John


that's a dead link.
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Re: Carrier Suggestions Needed

Postby thephaseusa » Wed May 08, 2019 7:00 pm

It works for me)) Do you have linkedin?
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Re: Carrier Suggestions Needed

Postby williamconley » Wed May 08, 2019 7:18 pm

Profile Not Found

An exact match for siptrunking could not be found.

The LinkedIn profile you're looking for isn't public or doesn't exist.
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Re: Carrier Suggestions Needed

Postby thephaseusa » Wed May 08, 2019 7:24 pm

In LinkedIn search Dominic Peters (Vancouver Canada )

https://www.linkedin.com/in/siptrunking/

That is the profile address. A browser takes you to auth wall page you have to log in to linkedin, then it will take you to his profile.

Funny i tried once and got no exact match too))
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Re: Carrier Suggestions Needed

Postby williamconley » Wed May 08, 2019 9:34 pm

Sorry, no linked in account. Wonder why it's not a Public account.
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Re: Carrier Suggestions Needed

Postby thephaseusa » Wed May 08, 2019 10:11 pm

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Re: Carrier Suggestions Needed

Postby williamconley » Wed May 08, 2019 10:50 pm

thephaseusa wrote:Can you see my page?

http://linkedin.com/in/phaseusa


I can indeed. Hi John.
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Re: Carrier Suggestions Needed

Postby thephaseusa » Mon May 13, 2019 1:48 pm

Try Dominic’s page again now Bill

https://www.linkedin.com/in/siptrunking
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Re: Carrier Suggestions Needed

Postby williamconley » Mon May 13, 2019 3:10 pm

thephaseusa wrote:Try Dominic’s page again now Bill

https://www.linkedin.com/in/siptrunking

Well, he now has a name and (theoretical?) city listed. That's a start.

You know what would be more impressive, though? A Web Site with all his company's information would be more impressive. Better Business Bureau. "In Business Since" with a traceable company name ... and then a LINK to linkedin.com instead of JUST a possibly fictitious entry on linkedin.com which requires a login just to see (thus tracing the lead back to it's source). Which is what linkedin is all about. (Datamining, lol)

I get nervous when secrecy is part of a company that wants money from startup businesses.

I get it that sometimes these are "just a guy" who "has a day job". I really do. But if that's the case, say it. At least it's honest and really just tells us you're hungry (and we should have a backup plan). But secrecy ... I've seen far too often how that ends.
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Re: Carrier Suggestions Needed

Postby thephaseusa » Mon May 13, 2019 7:14 pm

William, I just talked to Dominic. He knows you by reputation and would like to offer you a $300 credit to test with. No obligation.

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Re: Carrier Suggestions Needed

Postby williamconley » Mon May 13, 2019 8:04 pm

I think you're missing the point. lol

1) I don't work in a call center.

2) I never risk the calls we do make/receive with anyone I don't know. It's not worth it.

3) Which brings me to the point: There are a lot of telco's out there that operate under the radar. No licensing. Mixing calls in with robodialers to improve their stats. Not to mention many other ploys that I don't want to publish (no need to give ideas to the less-scrupulous out there AND probably many I've never even bumped into!) In the end, they can walk away with your money or toss you under the bus when they get in trouble of any sort. Especially if they aren't a real telco (merely an unlicensed reseller).

4) Anybody who doesn't even have their own website makes me nervous as I've had to listen to so many stories over the years about loss of funds from these situations. So I always quiz deeply to see if there's a real Telco behind the smoke.

So it's not about me having it in for any of these newcomers. I just want to be sure due diligence has been performed and everything is on "the up and up", as it were.
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Re: Carrier Suggestions Needed

Postby thephaseusa » Mon May 13, 2019 8:35 pm

Skype ID = mrdominictm

You guys should talk sometime.
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Re: Carrier Suggestions Needed

Postby williamconley » Mon May 13, 2019 8:38 pm

once again ... in private? nope. Public website. Telco licensing. No closed doors. Call Centers are privacy based. Proprietary scripting, secret lead lists, etc. But the Telco's through which they send their calls are meant to be Open Air and public or something is wrong.
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Re: Carrier Suggestions Needed

Postby ccttguys » Tue May 14, 2019 1:41 pm

We tried that carrier a while ago. lots of ringing and a few calls that were valid sometimes were being marked as ADC. But If I called them from my other carrier they went through just fine.

Also I know the uuid=0yzriDQI part of the URL he sent is a referral link.

Sounds like John M is trying to make a dirty dollar by being pushy recommending them.
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Re: Carrier Suggestions Needed

Postby williamconley » Tue May 14, 2019 3:15 pm

ccttguys wrote:We tried that carrier a while ago. lots of ringing and a few calls that were valid sometimes were being marked as ADC. But If I called them from my other carrier they went through just fine.

Also I know the uuid=0yzriDQI part of the URL he sent is a referral link.

Sounds like John M is trying to make a dirty dollar by being pushy recommending them.


Pardon me, but just who are you? ONE post and this is your information? Sounds more like you're competition! lol

LOL: I will admit it's also possible that you just don't want backlash on your "real" username, but that's why I like using my real name and company name. My reputation is all here for the world to see. I don't know if either of them is good or bad, I just recommend not putting any money in that account if you can't afford to lose it. Especially when there are Too Many Secrets. 8-)
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Re: Carrier Suggestions Needed

Postby thephaseusa » Thu May 16, 2019 4:49 pm

Yes its an agent link but its not what i do; ive never made one penny on voip and probably never will.

I’ve only used 5 or 6 voip carriers since I started making voip calls in 2016. Each time I switched I did it to save money. The carrier I use now charges me .005/minute and i’m happy with them. When i find a lower rate I might switch again)))

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Re: Carrier Suggestions Needed

Postby williamconley » Thu May 16, 2019 5:31 pm

Very cool. But just like an MLM (ie: Pyramid) scheme, the last people in can get screwed. I like to advise people that while they May ride the wave, they may also be the one to crash on the pier. Secrecy. 8-)
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Re: Carrier Suggestions Needed

Postby thephaseusa » Thu May 16, 2019 5:39 pm

You know why squids join the navy right?

To ride the waves...............
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Re: Carrier Suggestions Needed

Postby williamconley » Thu May 16, 2019 5:48 pm

thephaseusa wrote:You know why squids join the navy right?

To ride the waves...............

Doesn't always work out like expected. I got busted for living in the Wave cage. lol. Oddly enough, they then assigned me a new job ... GUARDING the Wave cage. I did enjoy that time in my naval career. Gitmo was fun. Yes. It was. What I can remember of it, that is. 8-)
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Re: Carrier Suggestions Needed

Postby thephaseusa » Thu May 16, 2019 5:54 pm

I started to translate that but for some reason I knew you would understand.
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Re: Carrier Suggestions Needed

Postby mubeen » Wed May 29, 2019 11:02 am

I tried lot of very cheap carries, few of them were great at start but after couple of weeks started diverting my traffic through bad routes. Using PD, was getting lot of ringing calls passed to agents. FAS is another issue. Currently I'm using a carrier which is giving me 0.0045.

Can anyone guide me what is normal number of ringing calls passed to agents in VICI for PD?
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Re: Carrier Suggestions Needed

Postby williamconley » Thu Jun 06, 2019 2:55 pm

Vicidial does NOT pass ringing calls to agents. Ever. The system is designed around "answer, then process". Without an answer (which terminates ringing, if ringing was actually happening), the "process" part never happens. So if a call with ringing arrives at an agent's session, it was a Fake Answer (FAS).
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Re: Carrier Suggestions Needed

Postby teleinx » Sat Jun 15, 2019 10:38 pm

williamconley wrote:once again ... in private? nope. Public website. Telco licensing. No closed doors. Call Centers are privacy based. Proprietary scripting, secret lead lists, etc. But the Telco's through which they send their calls are meant to be Open Air and public or something is wrong.



When looking for a carrier, do your due diligence people. Not all "good" carriers have fancy websites, and many are outdated. I suggest that you at least look up the if they are registered as a telecommunications provider with the government body in where they operate. Pretty much every country requires a business like a telecommunications provider to be registered.
Nevertheless, I remember years ago when a large provider closed up shop overnight. Their support dept did not even know what happened until days later.
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Re: Carrier Suggestions Needed

Postby williamconley » Sun Jun 16, 2019 12:16 am

teleinx wrote:
williamconley wrote:once again ... in private? nope. Public website. Telco licensing. No closed doors. Call Centers are privacy based. Proprietary scripting, secret lead lists, etc. But the Telco's through which they send their calls are meant to be Open Air and public or something is wrong.



When looking for a carrier, do your due diligence people. Not all "good" carriers have fancy websites, and many are outdated. I suggest that you at least look up the if they are registered as a telecommunications provider with the government body in where they operate. Pretty much every country requires a business like a telecommunications provider to be registered.
Nevertheless, I remember years ago when a large provider closed up shop overnight. Their support dept did not even know what happened until days later.


more than one. and it was two weeks in both cases, and it wsn't "did not know what happened" it was "nobody answering phones, no contact whatsoever for two weeks".

however: being a registered telco doesn't prevent that from happening. so have AT LEAST two carriers online and tested with full capacity.

while having a pretty website is far from required, if there's virtually NO website, make sure they are your third carrier and just use 'em for the cheap minutes but be sure you can afford to lose whatever funds you drop on them. of course, if you ca pay with a Credit Card (not a debit card, not paypal, not wire transfer), things get a bit more flexible. 8-)
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